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Fujifilm W1 3D Camera : Fujifilm W1 3D Camera… The Worst Camera Ever Made: The Review

Posted on 2009-08-13 12:06:00  |  by: Daimaou  |  Comments 74 Comments
Category:  IMAGE   |  Tags: FUJIFILM, CAMERA, FINEPIX, EXR, PHOTO, 3D

Fujifilm W1 3D Camera… The Worst Camera Ever Made: The Review



Before reading this review and jumping into conclusion too quickly we STRONGLY advise you to read this news we posted after Meeting Fujifilm in Japan regarding the review below, it will give you a better understanding on why we were disappointed

I feel very bad for Fujifilm, no really coz there's NO WAY on Earth I can say anything good about this camera despite its appearance… But let's try shall we? I had the camera to play with for a week, and I returned it to Fujifilm today… And Lord I'm disappointed… Anyway let’s try to write a review on the W1 (somehow).

Fujifilm W1 Specs
- 10.0 million pixels
- 1/2.3-inch CCD x2 sensor
- MPO+JPEG, MPO (Multi Picture Format compatible)
- 3D-AVI (Stereo AVI format with 2 image channels)
- 2D AVI format (Motion JPEG with sound)
- Auto / Equivalent to 100 / 200 / 400 / 800 / 1600 (Standard Output Sensitivity)
- Internal memory (Approx. 42MB) and SD/SDHC Memory Card

First Impression
The W1's design and construction is by far the most impressive thing about it, I mean, I kind of like it. It's well done, with a nice feel, well built, sturdy, nothing much to complain about here.

However once you push the shutter button things get bit different. The W1's GUI looks rough and is difficult to understand. I struggled for hours to understand how to set the ISO and I had to read the user's manual (lame). The various menu buttons are badly designed, don't make sense and give bad responses. Navigating the UI is like being back in the year 1999.

Let’s Shoot Baby
I believe we can all adapt ourselves somehow to a badly designed UI and weird buttons, but what about the picture quality and this 3D thingy?

Well first of all you have to understand how this 3D stuff works. Fujifilm glued two camera sensors on each side of the camera to give you this 3D thingy… A bit like is doing RED, or Panasonic's 3D HD Video camera, but with less success than both RED and Panasonic, granted both above mentioned video cameras cost an arm and a leg.

Once you power the camera up you have to struggle with two things. First you'll need a big pile of aspirin ready for the incredible headaches you'll get when using the 3D view finder… It may be only me, but after using the camera a few minutes my eyes began hurting like hell and I got a horrible headache. You’d better set the camera in 2D mode if you expect to play with the camera settings before shooting in 3D…

The other problem with this 3D camera is there's no way for you to see 3D results on a computer. This looks stupid, but 3D photos have an .MPO file extension, and I don't have software capable of reading these files or a hardware solution for that (TV, FRAME and so on)… Unless you have a Fujifilm 3D Photoframe or something capable of reading and displaying .MPO files, the W1 is pretty much useless…

Fortunately for us, the camera in 3D mode shoots both JPEG files and MPOs at the same time so at least you can feed your PC with your W1's SD card and see how ugly your photos look.

Due to the low ambient brightness surrounding me during our test, the lowest ISO setting I could get from the camera in auto was 400, while in Full Manual Mode I could set the camera to ISO 100 but had to put it on a tripod…

When I pressed the shutter, check the quality on the W1 display, fired-up PhotoShop CS3 and just cried… See for yourself… I cried like a baby and then had a good laugh.

3D Photo Sample







Video Mode
Believe it or not there's ALSO a video mode… my comments will be simple… LOL

What appears to be a 3D video, camera set on Video Mode, 3D Mode auto...

Conclusion
To be VERY VERY VERY Honest, I feel pretty bad… I feel bad for the Fujifilm engineers and staff who worked on the W1… There's no word other than crap that comes to my mind when describing it, maybe I got it wrong from the beginning, maybe I was expecting too much, but I can't recommend the W1 to anyone… Seriously… What did Fujiflim expect? I really want to know.

If by luck you have a W1 and are happy with it, please don't hesitate to contact us so we can share your experiences and update this review.

That said after this review I'm not sure if Fujifilm will EVER loan us another product to test …
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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 02:53 by Jarrette
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When in 3d does it give you both a left and right JPEG or just one jpeg and an .mpo?



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 02:54 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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It gives U 1 JPEG + 1 MPO



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 03:26 by XandrexWEB, IT, paris, france
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the MPO picture file and the MPO video files can to this day only be played in a decicated photoframe, the V1

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/viewer/

I read that nVidia graphic cards will soon support that format (with a dedicated screen I guess)



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 03:35 by Ruben
Home Page: http://www.reallyjapan.com
So, right now there's no way to convert a MPO 3D image to anaglyph jpeg, parallel eye or something like that?!

and.. about the video mode, can you record in 3D?



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 03:36 by Kei, USB Key Specialist, Tokyo, Akihabara, Koiwa
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Yes XandrexWEB, it's written on the Review...



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 03:42 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Ruben> Yes you can record video in either 2D or 3D... But same applies to photo...



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:11 by Amazing, IT, Shanghai
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The reviewer is really missing the point on this camera and keeps complaining about not having software to open .MPO files?

What are you thinking? If you want to view iamges on your PC use the JPEG file. There is no way you're standard monitor can display 3D images with or without software. This is the reason why you need specialised display which will provide the 3D effect, you cannot get this from normal LCD.

I can't even call this a review, it's just a series of complaints by the author Daimaou. Totally misinformed and effortless.



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:25 by Kei, USB Key Specialist, Tokyo, Akihabara, Koiwa
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@Amazing, I think you didn't read the review.... Waht you're telling is already written in this review...

So, please, first of all, read the review, and then come back to discuss



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:27 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Amazing> Just for you since you happen to be too lazy to read the full review

Now the other problem with this 3D Camera is that there are no ways for you to enjoy 3D Results on your Computer. This look stupid, but 3D photo happen to have an .MPO file extension, and I do not happen to have any soft capable to read these files or even have an hardware solution for that (TV, FRAME and so on)… So unless you happen to have the Fujifilm 3D Photoframe or something capable to read and display .MPO files the W1 is pretty much useless…



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:43 by pftpftpft
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If you do not understand cameras, Daima, do not write reviews.

This is the ridiculousest review I ever read.



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:46 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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pftpftpft> LOL...



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:47 by pftpftpft
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anaglyph video with W1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CnLpJs0q5c



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:50 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Well, the only thing I can say, our W1 has NOT the same result AT ALL ! We cannot get such result in 3D...



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:54 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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3D video of course, I mean we cannot get such output...



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 05:54 by pftpftpft
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upload samples ... for 3D pictures and 3D clips .. pleeeeease

http://www.file-upload.net/



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Posted on Thu Aug 13, 06:21 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Just edited the review, please check in Photo and Video for sample



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 02:10 by Icester, USA
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A refreshingly honest review, but I think you missed the point....

- Yes, the image quality is crap, but the focus is not 2d images, but 3d.

- Yes, you cannot (currently) view the 3d .mpo file on your computer (what's the point anyways, LCDs are 2D). However, there is hope: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=32473566 and http://www.thirddimensionsociety.org/page_5.htm

I believe that in order to give this camera a fair review, you also have to review it in conjunction with Fuji's 3D picture frame viewer.

All that being said, I believe you raise a very valid point -- without a 3d viewer, this camera is pointless and just plain junk compared to current cameras (when used for normal pictures only).



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 06:04 by Alpha1
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Looking at the MPO files through a hex editor, the format is just 2 jpeg files merged together, as a matter of a fact if you change the extension to jpg you will see the first jpeg.

And I did a pattern match and found the second jpeg in the file and just deleted all the data from the point up and was able to now view the second jpeg.

Also, I can do divergent 3d viewing (the opposite of crossing your eyes), so I can line the images up on my screen and see them in 3d with the need of any special glasses or a special display.

The 3d aspect of the images look good with some shifting.



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 08:40 by Ross, Student, Israel
Home Page: http://photoforum.ru/11012
Just the worst Review made on Earth,
Seriously, how can you call this a review?
Complaining about .MPO files is like complaining that your new Semitrailer is too big for your home garage!

Of curse you cannot use .MPO's like JPEG files because, Surprise Surprise! its not a Jpeg! and its not 2D! its 3D, its maid for different hardware/software, have you even used it once with its intended hardware/software before you called it worst camera?

Besides i can see that ISO 1600 and 400 crops are rather cleaner then majority of P&S cameras, by far not the worst ever!
Perhaps its UI is abit off, but its hardly makes this camera the worst ever,

I'm just happy that i got acquainted with this site with this review, so now i will know how unprofessional the reviews are



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 09:56 by Kei, USB Key Specialist, Tokyo, Akihabara, Koiwa
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@Israel.... "Of curse you cannot use .MPO's like JPEG files because, Surprise Surprise! its not a Jpeg! and its not 2D! its 3D, its maid for different hardware/software, have you even used it once with its intended hardware/software before you called it worst camera?"

Are you sure you read the review... what you're telling is just what is written...

"i can see that ISO 1600 and 400 crops are rather cleaner then majority of P&S cameras, by far not the worst ever!" I hope you're kidding?



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 10:03 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Kei, People tends to read in diagonal on the internet, once they focus on something they stick to it without really paying attention to the rest... That it.

Now in 2009, a Camera offering such Poor result EVEN in 100 ISO this is a shame.



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 10:06 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Icester> Thanks for your message. Yes I agree with you the Focus is 3D, but there is NO WAY, beside the camera and Fujifilm Frame to access to these 3D photos, so how can you compare to other camera. As Alpha1 said (and has the camera is made) these 3D photo are just 2 2D one... In our case it is 2 2D noisy photo of poor quality... I do not believe that 2 2D poor photo will make stunning 3D one by magic.



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 11:32 by Serwei, Geek, Singapore
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Daimaou, why don't you ask Fuji to send you a photoframe to see how it goes?

Understand that this W1 is a first attempt on 3D, so the capture/review is a bit tough.

BUT, if the GUI is really as sucky as you said then yeah they deserve a bad rating. Is it the same GUI as the other Fujis?



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 02:01 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Ok folks, some updates, Next Tuesday morning we have an meeting with Fujifilm, they kindly called us this morning in order to invite us to talk about the W1 and to help us to better unleash the full potential of this camera, and to find out why we were not so happy with the W1... So Stay tuned the nice folks at Fujifilm will soon reply to all our questions



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 10:33 by alphabet, CEO, Shanghai
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Just the worst ever Review written on Earth - don't write about thingz u don't understand!



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Posted on Fri Aug 14, 10:55 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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alphabet> Yeah right, like you are a god and know everything on everything... go and get a life...



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Posted on Sat Aug 15, 02:53 by Leviathan, Ing., DE
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LOL, nice attempt to do a Review....
But well you didn`t have to put in your emotions, but pure facts.
Wow, but who am I to argue with an 10 year old? (regarding your language in the article)
I guess you are only mad because you had to give back the camera, haha.


"after using the camera for just a few minutes my eyes hurt like hell"
Did you even notice that you can change the eye/lens width, but I guess then you had to read the manual (sooooo lame....)



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Posted on Sat Aug 15, 02:59 by digitgio
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Really a poor review...
Ok the camera is noisy, but how look
the images in 3D viewer ?
Usually your review are OK but onestly I feel this one a little haugthy...
Is normal that you can't see picture on your LCD, the purpose of this camera is to produce 3d images to see on a special viewer... in the next months when 3d tv will be on your house you will need a 3d lcd tv to see 3d program.
I think you have to be more serious in the next review.



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Posted on Sat Aug 15, 05:03 by Icester, USA
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Daimaou> Thank you for reply. I see nothing wrong with your review - it is exactly what Fuji needs in order to wake them up to the reality of the consumer market for this camera. What I mean is that your review is candid and honest for someone without the proper equipment to fully view and (hopefully) appreciate the 3D aspects.

After reading your review, I hope Fuji wakes up to the fact that they had better create a very good deal (camera & viewer frame) package. In fact, they might just have to consider giving the frame away at cost - otherwise, I fear they will be receiving a lot of hate.



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Posted on Sat Aug 15, 05:04 by Icester, USA
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On a technical note...
Just one more comment regarding the 3D output quality -- I agree with you when you say it is horrible. However, it is 3D - something no one else has done before. Also, most, if not all, 3D data quality is pretty poor (for anything beyond raw 3D x, y, z points in space). Adding textures (real optical images) on top of the raw 3d points is always pretty poor from everything I've seen. Also, merging together 2 optical images doesn't give the best 3d image either - the depth is greatly hindered by the width of the 2 cameras. I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe Fuji was a little over ambitious with this camera....

(sorry for the double post, posts are limited to 1000 chars)



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Posted on Sat Aug 15, 09:25 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Leviathan> "after using the camera for just a few minutes my eyes hurt like hell"
Did you even notice that you can change the eye/lens width, but I guess then you had to read the manual (sooooo lame....)... Do you really think that we did not try that?

After reading all people complaining, I know understand why some companies provide horrible products and poorly designed... It is not because they cannot do better, it is simply because most of you are ready to purchase these crappy products and will be happy with it.... They give you shit you take shit...



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Posted on Mon Aug 17, 09:23 by monopic, Europe
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Thanks for the review.

The free VLC player (version 1.0.1) allowed two video streams to be played back simultaneously from the .avi, so I put them side-by-side on my 2D screen and viewed them cross-eyed.

As expected, the images were in 3D with a normal parallax and probably parallel "convergence". Everything appeared behind the monitor. Perhaps with some shifting, like it was said, it could be ok.

Still, I agree with generally bad picture quality, in both video and photo modes. Coupled with bad interface, bad 3D viewfinder, high price, etc ... it's not the point-and-shoot stereo camera we all want.



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Posted on Tue Aug 18, 05:16 by FvdK, Netherlands
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First of all, the MPO files can be read by the freeware StereoPhotoMaker software, currently only with the Japanese version but there will soon be an English version available.

This software will also allow you to view the 3D images in various ways like:
Side by Side
Above/Below
Page-flip for 3D shutter glasses
Interlaced
Various Anaglyph versions.

The real life 3D samples that I have seen, look very good.

It's a pity that you wrote your review without proper understanding of the 3D functionality.



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Posted on Tue Aug 18, 05:44 by Gunnar, Scientist, Oslo, Norway
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Even if the rewiver do not like the equipment I feel the language chosen not appropriate. Several camera makers have made stereo cameras for the consumer market in the past, including Leiz (Leica cameras, http://www.halfhill.com/shuchat7.html) None of these were any commercial success. Stereographic photography remained in the last century mainly a tool for cartographers using aerial stereographi photography.
I believe this Fuji camera is a bold move given the commercial risks involved. With the advent of stereoscopic displays this technology may however create a new realm of photography. The technology is however in its infancy. Unfortunately this review fails in taking this ainto account.



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Posted on Wed Aug 19, 10:26 by Town_Crier, Super Genius, Your town
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Gunnar writes: "Several camera makers have made stereo cameras for the consumer market in the past, including Leiz (Leica cameras, http://www.halfhill.com/shuchat7.html) None of these were any commercial success."

Not so Gunnar! The Stereo Realist, made by the David White Company was in production from 1947 until the mid-1970s. Most of their cameras are still functioning today.

And to the reviewer - RTFM. Everybody else seems to be able to use the camera, as seen by the number of images posted on the web by users in Japan.



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Posted on Wed Aug 19, 01:39 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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We had a 2h meeting with Fujifilm yesterday we will write an "additional" comment on this review, but Fujifilm agrees with us on many aspect of the review, especially that the camera quality on 2D photo could be better...

So wait for a couple of hours (24) and you will see.



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Posted on Wed Aug 19, 06:34 by TapTap
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Cool, we are waiting. By the way, once resized, your sample makes a pretty decent 3D photo:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7637/finepixw1akihabaranewss.jpg



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Posted on Wed Aug 19, 11:58 by Jez, Entrepreneur, London
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I disagree with your review. Ive had a W1 for a few days now and im taking the most fantastic shots. The 3d is amazing, and is a unique feature. You should not be reviewing this camera against other 2d cameras - where it is obviously weak, but should be praising the first camera of its kind to make 3d photography (and video) accessible to anyone.

As for your complaint on the user interface - i do not feel its any more awful than anyone else's ui. its not great, but it doesnt get in the way of shooting. i am english and cannot read japanese, yet i have been able to use every function on the camera without access to the user manual. For me, thats a good test of a UI.

i cant wait to buy the v1 viewer screen when it comes out next week!

-- Jez



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Posted on Thu Aug 20, 04:58 by mramosc, Electronics Engineer, San Jose, CA
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I have never seen so much non sense in one review. (I did read the whole thing)
What's your next review about, "I can't watch my color pictures in my black and white TV"
Every comment you make like "these 3D photo are just 2 2D" shows that you just have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That is actually how the 3D effect is created (when used with the proper hardware!)
Do a little bit of homework and teach yourself about stereo photography before you make a review on it.
The funny thing is that a lot of the things that you complain about, like the way the lcd screen works, makes a lot of sense for someone familiar with stereo photography
It’s clear to me that Fuji engineers knew exactly what they were doing.
The only mistake that Fuji is making is to market it as very simple 3D product; it’s definitely simpler than anything else, but unless you also have the viewer it still is not for everybody.



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Posted on Fri Aug 21, 11:08 by Neil, Attorney, Arlington, VA USA
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So what was the outcome of the meeting with Fujifilm? I think we're all waiting to hear.



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Posted on Sun Aug 23, 03:59 by cybereality, Hacker, USA
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I created a small command-line application called MPO2Stereo which will convert the MPO files to JPEG stereo pairs (left/right images). You can download this program here:
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4124



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 11:43 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Meeting with Fujifilm is now online on Front Page !



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 12:50 by char, canada
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Absolutely the worst camera review I've ever read. Obviously the reviewer (if you can even call him one) has no understanding of stereo photography at all, and complains about not having some magical "software" that would allow him to display 3d pictures on 2d monitors (duh). Worst of all, instead of educating himself and admitting his mistakes he insults his readers and calls them names. Way to go!

I now know which website to avoid...



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 01:41 by ABC
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the notion of reviewing something as unconventional such as this with a conventional measure is pointless...

however, i don't think it is you that is at fault, fujifilm should be responsible for their stupidity in sending product to reviewer who is obviously incapable of thinking outside the box.

bad fuji, bad.



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 02:11 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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For the love of GOD... Please read first and comment later !



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 02:12 by Kei, USB Key Specialist, Tokyo, Akihabara, Koiwa
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@char, ABC, you should go back to school, or just finish your studies...



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 02:21 by Lueders, minneapolis
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You said that the GUI was crummy. I don't doubt it, but you never said specifically what your problem with it was. To be taken seriously as a reviewer you need to indicate not only that there is a problem, but exactly what the problem is so that the reader can empathize dealing with it. by saying the GUI is out of 1999 is meaningless. 50% of GUI is always crummy, no matter what year it was. It's like saying "oh my car is so crappy, it's like a car from the 70's or something!", but there were great cars made in the 70's. Dude really. you've got a larger readership then your amateur exacerbation deserves, at your point. Find someone to run your stuff by before you post it, preferably someone who doesn't really like you lots, like me.



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 02:35 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Lueders> I am sad to see that no one, including you, took 5 minutes to read the review... Thy just focused on the title and point... NOW if you have spent some times to read the review and follow the link at the beginning of this review you would have find the answer to your question.

is as far as we are concerned, rough and complicated, once again who is always going to carry with him his user manual in order to be able to change the ISO speed of his camera? How many pictures you may miss if you have to first understand how these different settings works and means as well as having to go so many different menus and sub-menus in order to get the correct setting for the correct pictures?

To all of you who want to comment, please read carefully the first review and the add-on we just published... THEN read it again, for real this time... And maybe, later, please comment .



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Posted on Mon Aug 24, 04:09 by vdb
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@to all people who complain about reviewer capability

It's so important for engineer to have an opinion from casual user. In this case, u can not get much from uber super photographer

@reviewer
Perhaps people need more 3d photo sample...
oops.... u can not show the 3d photo on html....
however i think u miss one important info,
battery life...

with 3d, it took 2 photo at once, also twice the processing needed,
is it worth to sacrifice battery for the 3d photo ?

personally, i dont expect noisy image from fujifilm



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:22 by Tachi
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One of the things Daimaou forgot is that fujifilm is opening a new market for a 3D camera, I don't know other 3D consumer camera out there. What is very cool is that on the future all cameras and camcorders are going to be 3D.

Fujifilm has started something amazing, I am sure that their camera is not perfect, but saying that is the worst camera ever made, is totally unfair.



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:26 by Diamamamama
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Why daimamama does not test the camera pictures with this:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/viewer/finepix_real3dv1/

It could be great to take some pictures and view them on 3D even if on your computer is not possible, imagine the face of your kids looking at 3D pictures without any glasses that is AMAZING.



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:38 by desune, Enthusiast, Tokyo
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Ok, I read the whole review; and even interview with Fuji-Film. I have to say...this is one of the most unprofessional reviews I have EVER read in my life!

"Video Mode
Believe it or not there's ALSO a video mode… my comments will be simple… LOL"

You call that a "review"? The choice of words is more attuned to a personal blog than a proper review.

Anyway, the person who buys this camera obviously isn't buying it for top-quality 2D images...they're paying for the 3D capabilities! Complaining about this camera's 2D images is like being disappointed with a video camera's stills; The reviewer has totally missed the point.

And why do you want to view an .mpo file on a 2D screen? The camera gives you a proper .jpg. Isn't that a much better solution?



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:46 by desune, Enthusiast, Tokyo
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One more thing:

It's obvious from the outset that without a proper 3D viewer, this camera will have VERY limited appeal. To be disappointed at this is just absurd; that's like complaining about your new full-color camera when you only have a black and white screen...beyond comprehension.



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:54 by ChacMool, Engineer, Frozen Wastes
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Whether the points made in this "review" are accurate or not, the Myspace-caliber tone, the lack of supporting evidence, the rudimentary explanations and the lack of polish show a lack of professionalism that immediately discredits whatever opinion the reviewer might have.

And the repeated cries of "Read the review!" in the comments are missing the point -- we did read the review, and the review itself is the problem.



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 01:55 by Dionsysus, Software QA Engineer, NYC
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This is one of the worst and lamest reviews I've read in a while. If you want details as to why check out the highest marked comments on this site about your article:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/24/fujifilm-finepix-real-3d-w1-slammed-in-early-review-company-res/#comments


As far as my reasons for questioning your photographic knowledge? Don't even get me started by the fact that you took 3D images where there's no background - you need depth!!! The 2 objects are parallel as far as focal plane (look up that term).

The underexposure of the earlier shots is not uncommon in P&S cameras. You then should choose center-weighted exposure, rather than full frame or "Matrix". Oh wait, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

Include pics of the interface next time? Like DPReview.com does? Then we can get a better idea about how hard it was to find the ISO,1 lol.

You don’t seem to know the basics of shooting photos, or what's involved in 3D photography. Laaaame.



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Posted on Tue Aug 25, 02:00 by Dionysus, Software QA Engineer, NYC
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^Per my comment above:

Here's a link about different metering options ^_^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metering_mode

The LX3 p&s I have refers to it as matrix, but here it's described as average metering. The point is that white backgrounds appear especially bright, so center-weighted or spot would've been the correct way to use the camera (I'm assuming it has these options).



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Posted on Thu Aug 27, 06:32 by djotai, Medical engineering, Tel Aviv, Israel
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I think the review is fair.
In his casual, amicable fashion, the reviewer addressed THE most crucial aspect of the 3D issue - mass display - and found it lacking.
Just on this basis, the camera is not a consumer product, but a gadget. The prospective buyer has been properly warned.



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Posted on Sat Aug 29, 02:07 by Dither
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Sony Vegas Pro from can open the left and right AVI files from this camera!

You can easily make red/blue anaglyphic videos by applying a red knockout and a blue/green knockout and adding the layers together.



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Posted on Mon Aug 31, 09:41 by Heavy
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250 stereo pictures made with Fuji W1 - 54 MB

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2S6H6FDV



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Posted on Sat Sep 12, 04:39 by Ahmet, Photographer, San Francisco
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I received the W1 and the V1 from Japan over a week ago. I pulled out the camera, popped in a charged NP-95 from my f30, turned the camera and used it. I still haven't read the manual. There is nothing unusual about the GUI if you've ever used any other Fuji digital point and shoot.

Is the 2D image quality sub-par when compared to camera like the F200EXR, F30/31, or even the f50fd? Yes, but none of them can shoot in 3D. The 3D effect is amazing, especially when viewed on the V1 frame.

While I appreciated your early review of the Fuji's 3D camera, I didn't appreciate the gut level reaction you had rather than a more measured/scientific approach to it. For a first pass at a 3D system without glasses, the Fuji W1 and V1 are simply amazing! I can't wait till lenticular prints are available through my local Fuji Frontier minilab!



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Posted on Mon Sep 28, 03:31 by pelesl
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You shouldn't be reviewing cameras if you don't know how to use them. This is evident from the pictures you took of the camera itself. Moreover, you should take into account that you are handling a prototype.

Moreover, there are ways to view 3D images on "2D" monitors. If you lay the two views next to each other, and cross your eyes until you see three images, the middle one will be 3D. For some people it's very easy; your brain "snaps" into the central 3D image and you can relax your eyes. Much like the magic eye posters, but much easier.



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Posted on Tue Sep 29, 11:35 by Ray
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The camera was named a 3D camera. It is the 3D capability that makes it worth the money. If you do not care about 3D, there are 1000 more choices from Fuji or not out there.

So I guess the reviewer should have made a bit more study and appreciation of how easy it is to get 3D effect straight from the camera's 3D LCD or from the Viewer.

In any case, the title of "the worst camera made" is way too much of an empty claim. Even by studying the review line by line (which is a waste of time, really), it still did not substantiate the claim. Sad, isn't it?



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Posted on Tue Sep 29, 11:51 by Man, Technical, Beijing
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I search the web for experience with this 3D camera and end up with this site. For normal DC or DSLR, we expect the reviewers to tell us their ease of handling, their flexibility of control and image quality etc. Especially for image quality, it is very easily demonstrated by looking at pictures taken with the equipments and posted on review sites.

But for this 3D camera, it is not so easy to do so. In fact, it is not possible to get an objective judgement...so we rely heavily (which I am trying to find out) on the reviewer's subjective description of how he or she take 3D pictures, how the 3D effect is observed, and whether it is of stunning effect of just so so...etc.

Unfortunately, this is not what I get from this review and simply calling this camera "the worst camera ever made" does not help!



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Posted on Mon Oct 05, 08:33 by TL, Sydney - Australia
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W1 is great! And no, I don't own Fujifilm shares. 3D pics are stunning and 3D videos are wonderful. A few of my students could not see 3D and some even got headaches. You can adjust the parallex to fit your eyes.

The 3D viewer is just an 8-inch screen...bit small. Post your experience with it. I am assuming that FujiFilm made the viewer "only" 8-inches because videos are just 640x480. Perhaps a larger screen deteriorates the 3D view?

Found that Zalman ZM-M220W 22" monitor can display 3D AVI files taken by my W1. However, their tech support replied that this monitor cannot display MPO files...yet?

Since not all products are perfect, here's something you might like to know. I already have a Canon 40D, Sony F828, and Olympus FE-320...all 2D. This W1 is the only camera with which I see a need to clean my fingerprints off of it...ever so often.

Also, many of my first pics/vids had my fingers in them. Yes, it's easy to hold it wrong so your finger gets in front of the lens.



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Posted on Thu Oct 15, 05:01 by Colin, Canada
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Just was checking some sample 3D stills and Videos with the new Nvidia software. Looks pretty cool guys! See here for details: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Photo_Viewer.html



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Posted on Mon Oct 26, 02:00 by Burny, boss :), Netherlands
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hi folks,

loads of comments so loads to read....
But my question is: can I use the 3d-movie footage, which can be made by the finex pix 3d camera, in the Steroscopic Player from this company: http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx ?
Hope you guys can help me....



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Posted on Thu Nov 12, 02:47 by n710c
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it looks like we are compliant the SONY CD player can't play the cassette



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Posted on Sun Nov 15, 12:39 by Burny, boss :), Netherlands
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Well, I have the camera now as well. All I can say: Daimaou, you are/were so wrong. I think you have no idea how 3D photography works and how complicated it is. The camera is great, does fanatastic stuff and the photos are amazing. And you know why? Cos I am a pro. I work with 3D content. So I know what to expect.
So, people, buy that camera cos it is worth it!



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Posted on Sun Nov 15, 01:12 by Gabor
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Many posters don't seem to understand the entire 3d concept. Amazing. People asking for downloadable JPG files are doing so totally logically. Some us, who know 3d for decades, also know that with the lcd stereoglasses you still get far superior 3d effect and pictures than any other currently known method electronically. And we don't mind to put up a glass, after all half of mankind wears glasses at one point of their lives. What's the big deal?

Gabor
docobgyn@yahoo.com



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Posted on Sun Nov 15, 01:22 by Gabor, Health care, Cedar Rapids, IA
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Fuji made a big mistake not to allow the two separate pictures (left eye-right eye) to be available for download. 3d enthusiasts, who could "spread the good news finally to have a 3d camera" will pass, knowing that the lenticular 3d technology is as inferior (or perhaps even more so) than the red-blue anaglyph. Regular people will find that out pretty soon and this camera is doomed to fail, especially in this price range. I am waiting for years for a digital 3d camera, but I won't buy this one.



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