VP-HMX 10A SAMSUNG : VP-HMX 10A, The first compact Video Camera HD from Samsung. -UPDATE-

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:19 by adorable, Webmaster, LA, CA
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1) AVCHD is not the \'best\' consumer HiDef video codec around.

a) No quality advantage vs. HDV in major Japanese video magazine tests in playback on HD monitors of HD video recorded in both formats. Also, many people testing the two codecs at dvinfo have not found anything significant worth noting. The two are essentially interchangable.

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:20 by adorable
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b) No tape storage format.
People may be surprised at first at this comment, but think about it. HDV can be stored to MiniDV tapes for 10+ year archival storage lifespans. AVCHD? You've only got commercial recordable BluRay mini discs to store them on, and everyone knows optical media is one of the least stable storage formats around, esp. for 1st generation discs.

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:20 by adorable
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(ie. remember the rotting CDs, rotting DVDs, etc? Optical media is easily damaged by scratching (CD top surface) and/or layer delamination (DVDs/BluRays that are two plastic layers glued together -- simply stick a fingernail between the two layers of a DVD+/-R disc and pop them apart so easily. Even dropping a DVD/BluRay on edge can result in layer delamination.)
The dye media is light sensitive, so the longer they are exposed to light, the greater the degredation of the recording layer (and irreversible).

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:20 by adorable
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Whereas many people have encountered unreadable recordable CD/DVDs already in the short time they've been available, tapes last decades (eg. anyone can stick a 20+ year old VHS rental tape into a deck, and they'll play just fine).
Lack of a stable storage format is a big downside.

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:20 by adorable
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c) No significant support by the major video editing programs of AVCHD. Just try to import the video into Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 and you'll realize..... NO AVCHD SUPPORT AT ALL!!!
Many major video editing programs (exception being Sony Vegas Video) simply do no support the AVCHD format, if even correctly at all (some camcorder AVCHD formats simply do not import correctly).
CAN'T EDIT = USELESS!!

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:21 by adorable
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d) The processing power required to process AVCHD video is significantly higher than HDV. As a result, you are forced to use a more powerful system to get the same responsiveness and rendering times under AVCHD editing vs. HDV editing. This is due to the use of the more processor intensive MPEG-4 codec in AVCHD vs. the MPEG-2 codec in HDV.

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 12:21 by adorable
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2) AVCHD does have a few advantages vs. HDV:

a) 1920x1080 resolution vs. HDV's 1440x1080. (This is only fully noticable if you have a camcorder with sensors that can fully resolve all 1920 horizontal pixels. Eg. the Sony camcorders using their ClearVid diagonal format simply cannot because there is no true 1:1 pixel to CMOS pixel correlation - they do some unusual interpolation which results in unusal edge artifacts at times.

b) 5.1 stereo.
c) Smaller file sizes for the same recordiing time - typically 2-3x smaller than HDV which is 13GB/hour.

Posted on Wed Aug 22, 08:08 by Daimaou, Survivor, Tokyo - Japan
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Wow that was long, anyway, I work daily with different video format, HDV is .... by far the worst I ever tried, I am a PRO P2 Fan with the DVCPROHD... not this said, the AVCHD is by far the best format when it comes to compact and small camera, by FAR ! I have amazing result with AVCHD camera rather than HDV... We use AVCHD Camera for internat shooting (cars) or stick on the car while driving...

Believe me we use to test since 2 years different format, so far we will not move from P2 (DVCPROHD)... Since we cannot afford a RED... we stick with P2.... but when it comes to compact camera and codec for special needs... AVCHD....

As leisure, I have a lot of fun with AVCHD camera to shoot video of my daughter, the quality is great

Posted on Thu Aug 23, 10:47 by Wayne
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Pocket Red coming

Many AVCHD cameras are not the best implementations of AVCHD, hence why HDV often beats it. Have you compared to Canon HV20? An proper h264 camera can be substantially better.

The car recording, I guess you mean facing straight ahead. Are you recording by HDMI, then you will get an advancement, as it by passes AVCHD.

Have your reported on Kodak z1275, 810/815 HD video? Aiptek, and number of other Chinese HD cameras. Time for an show down review of 720p against 720p HDV.

720p50 is where it is at.

Posted on Tue Oct 16, 10:42 by Rinaldo, Programmer, Slovakia
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My question would be if is worth to buy this VP-HMX10 or better to give out a bit more and buy an 1080i camera?

Because is not AVHCD format, there is any video editing software whith which is possible to edit the files made by this cam?

Tnx for the response

Posted on Tue Apr 15, 07:28 by alex
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then you will get an advancement, as it by passes AVCHD.

Posted on Wed Jul 02, 09:11 by eJacob, AV Tech, Keuka Lake, NY
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The Kodak Z1012 has an f2.8 12x Schneider zoom, records 1280x720 at 30fps using Quicktime mp4 to SD cards AND takes 10.1 megapickel stills.
That's a scary good multitasker.

Posted on Fri Oct 10, 12:48 by aliver
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Since HMX10 is a high definition camcorder, the quality of HMX10 would be better than MX20 which supports 720x480.