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Posted on 2005-12-01 11:47:12  |  by: Daimaou  |  Comments 8 Comments
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False HD 20" TV

Ever since the day HD was born, there have been half anf false truths spread around, and even I have difficulties sometimes figuring it all out. But this is clearly wrong: Novac presents an HD TV that is not really HD! And why is that? It's the wrong resolution, this TV has a WXGA resolution of 1366x768, and to get HD you need a height of 480, 720 or 1080... and clearly, 768 is not equal to one of those three figures, right? Another aspect that proves my point is that it doesn't even have an HDMI port, but rather a Japanese HD port or Y/Pb/Pr, and they can get a HD signal in but it will not be displayed correctly because of the screen resolution.

This is a nice HD TV branded product that doesn't even come close to HD. So why do they release this set? It's Christmas, and a lot of you (with 1.5 million visitors per month I can't be wrong) will get an HD TV... so be careful not to get caught into any of these schemes, k?


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Posted on Thu Dec 01, 05:18 by
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It is an HDTV.

HDTV can come in 3 different formats. (720p, 1080i, 1080p). 480p like you mentioned is not HDTV, it is only EDTV!!!

A TV doesn't have to have DVI/HDMI ports in order to be an HDTV. The two ports you mentioned are just fine.

Now the resolution... many HDTV's don't have a native 720, 1080 display.

Examples:
Panasonic 42PX500U - 1024x768
Panasonic 50PX500U - 1365x768
Sony KDE-42XS955 - 1024x768
Sony KDE-50XS955 - 1280x768

As long as you are above a 720 vertical resolution then you are good to go.



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Posted on Thu Dec 01, 05:26 by
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agreed, this is definitely not a trick and is actually the norm with a lot of HD sets. I don't know of any HD plasmas off hand that have resolution that perfectly matches one of the HD standards. A couple of the new LCD and DLP sets have 1080p resolution, but most have around 768 horizontal lines.



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Posted on Thu Dec 01, 05:47 by
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Everyone has valid points thus far. Also, don't forget not to confuse HD broadcast standards with display standards, which are two distinctly different things.



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Posted on Thu Dec 01, 08:02 by
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I like the Y/Pb/Pr connection. HDMI is ok. both is better.
I'm hearing that the HDMI has the HCP copy protection that will create too much trouble in the future.
stations broadcast in different resolutions, so it'll never be right.
but most sets upconvert, so it'll look as correct as it'll be on that display.



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Posted on Fri Dec 02, 01:53 by Daimaou
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Kozanator said:
It is an HDTV.

HDTV can come in 3 different formats. (720p, 1080i, 1080p). 480p like you mentioned is not HDTV, it is only EDTV!!!

A TV doesn't have to have DVI/HDMI ports in order to be an HDTV. The two ports you mentioned are just fine.

Now the resolution... many HDTV's don't have a native 720, 1080 display.

Examples:
Panasonic 42PX500U - 1024x768
Panasonic 50PX500U - 1365x768
Sony KDE-42XS955 - 1024x768
Sony KDE-50XS955 - 1280x768

As long as you are above a 720 vertical resolution then you are good to go.


Well I am not really agree here, coz this won't be natural, you will be olgige to use a sof (in the TV) for the perfect ratio, and some of them are less good than other, this is why some HD TV are better than other. Now if you take a TV which is FULL HD Ready even 720p well you will have the most perfect vids at 720p.

For companies it is cheaper now to take whatever screen resolution and put some soft trick to convert the vids to be well displayed on TV than to take a real compatible display or resolution.



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Posted on Fri Dec 02, 10:36 by
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I'm sorry but I have to comment on this - this TV is indeed HD capable. At 1366 x 768 that tells you that you are now capable of supporting 720p. Do you have to have exactly 720 lines of resolution to support 720p? Of course not. The 768 lines of resolution works just fine for 720p folks - you're only dealing with 48 more lines of resolution- no one is going to see any scaling artifacts here. In fact if you look at nearly all mid range HDTVs from all sorts of vendors these days, 1366 x 768 is a very common resolution. With this, you will have support for 720p.



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Posted on Fri Dec 02, 03:34 by
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Daimaou said:

Well I am not really agree here, coz this won't be natural, you will be olgige to use a sof (in the TV) for the perfect ratio, and some of them are less good than other, this is why some HD TV are better than other. Now if you take a TV which is FULL HD Ready even 720p well you will have the most perfect vids at 720p.

For companies it is cheaper now to take whatever screen resolution and put some soft trick to convert the vids to be well displayed on TV than to take a real compatible display or resolution.


Hi Daimaou,

In Theory, you are correct. A 720p signal should look best on an HDTV that supports a native resolution of 720 horizontal lines.

Unfortunately, that's not really the case. (at the moment!!! - things could change)

I've looked at quiet a few HDTV's and my favourite is the Panasonic 50PX500U - 1365x768 - It's a Plasma

I've looked at the following native 720p displays (I could only find Rear Projection HDTV's):

Hitachi 50VG825 - LCD
JVC HD-56FH96 - D-ILA
Panasonic PT-52LCX65 - LCD
Panasonic PT-56DLX75 - DLP

... and personally, I've found that the quality isn't as nice as the Panasonic Plasma I mentioned above. Now granted, I'm comparing many different types of Technologies together but all I'm saying is that you don't need a native 720p display to give you the best picture.

As far as 1080i/p is concerned... That's an other story and a different price category.



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Posted on Fri Dec 02, 04:47 by Daimaou
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Honestly I was lost... I tought I knew... but I m lost again...



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